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Originally Posted by GullFoss
1. 4th and 5th Street don't both need bike lanes. The city picked 5th over fourth. Makes sense to me.
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The city also picked 12th over 10th.
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2. 10 ave would be an alternative to 12 ave and would probably be better for cyclists and motorists. Yes, would lose a bit of parking of 10 ave, but could optimize traffic down 12 street better. Slower vehicle traffic speeds on 10 ave make it more cyclist friendly imo.
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The speed limits on 10th and 12th are the same. If the vehicle speed feels faster it's because 12th is more optimized for through travel, which is also better for cyclists. 10th also isn’t more residential than 12th. 14th and 15th is working so well the city is blowing them up to make better lanes.
And what are you trying to optimize vehicle traffic on 12th to? There’s already less volume on it than there was pre-pandemic. The goal isn’t to have more vehicles travelling on it. What does optimal mean in this case?
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4. If you had cycle infrastructure on 10 ave instead of 12 ave, then you can do cycle infrastructure on.7th Street or 9 street instead of 8th Street. And have it connect to underpass at 8th Street via 10 avenue SW.
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The high traffic point on 8th is the underpass, so if you're building it anyway, what's the justification for diverting the cycle lanes after they cross it? You're now creating disruption on two streets instead of one, to the benefit of neither drivers or cyclists. What’s being optimized?
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5. Fair point about 5A street. I was thinking as an alternative to a cycle track on 5 Street to south of 17 ave. You could go 5A to Cliff to 25 to river pathway. But you don't really need cycle infrastructure on those quiet streets.
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How did you plan on getting people from 5th to 5A and from 25th to the River Pathway? Again, what’s being optimized with this proposal?