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Originally Posted by Sandman
You could drum up all the advanced stats you want, but it still doesn't explain how he was 3rd-worst in the entire NHL for plus/minus, on a 96-point team. It's a weak stat, but not entirely useless, or they would remove it. I love Rasmus, but he had a bad year- and while injuries obviously plagued him all year long, he may not be worth quite as much as we think in a trade because of that.
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You're killing me Sandman... but here it goes.
Celebrini had a -31 and Bedard was -36 and -44 in his last two seasons. Does that mean those guys have lost value? Nah.
Same goes for Andersson. He is playing on a team that went from a really deep D group (Andersson, Hanifin, Tanev, Weegar, Zadorov) and moved out the majority of those guys and replaced them with Hanley off waivers, Pachal, Bean, Bahl, Miromanov. (Bahl turned out to have a great season and I think he has a lot of potential still, but he was not a Hanifin replacement last season.)
Because of the changes in the group, Andersson went from being the 'offensive top pair that was deployed in the O zone more' to being the 'shut down guy that was deployed in the D zone with the Backlund shutdown line'. And on top of all of that, the Flames were the 6th worst scoring team in the league.
You keep mentioning the 96 point season, but that is irrelevant to +/-. What you should note is that the team was very low scoring with only 225 goals for. 6th worst in the league. And the two guys on the team who put up the most goals were playing with Weegar more so than Andersson. The difference wasn't small 35+28 goals vs. 15+15 goals.
All of this is going on and I don't even mention the injuries... which just speaks how much of a warrior he is. Honestly, that should drive his value up even more.
When you get right into it, I seriously doubt a pro scout or GM, who can digest all of these stats waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than I can, is going to look at +/- at all. They will likely dismiss a lot of this last season as a result of what the team is doing (and the injuries) and possibly acknowledge that Andersson was one of the reasons the Flames overperformed and were not in the bottom 5 last year.
My 2 cents.