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Old 07-18-2025, 12:25 PM   #5425
Macho0978
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18 View Post
Deep teams have more even distributions of 5v5 ice time.

The highest centers in the NHL (McDavid, Mackinnon) get about 17 minutes a night at 5v5. The Flames don't have one of those guys.

Kadri was actually 12th among centers at 15:06 at 5v5.

The deeper teams tend to distribute the ice time more equally at 5v5.

Florida tends to lean on their top 9. Barkov played 13:57 for the Panthers. Bennett was 13:50, Lundell was 12:33, and Nosek played 8:37.

Dallas went with way more of a balance. Johnston - 13:22, Hintz - 11:56, Steel: 11:40, Seguin - 12:25.

I don't see any reason this Flames team couldn't be distributed more like the Stars ice time where at 5v5 all 4 lines are getting 12-14 minutes of ice time.

If guys like Kopitar (13:58), Barkov (13:57), Stamkos (13:38), Aho (13:35), Johnston (13:22), Miller (13:05), Hintz (11:56), etc can play under 14 minutes a night at 5v5 then there is no reason it should be an issue for anybody on this Flames roster.
The average team gets over 3 pps a game and close to 6 minutes a night on the PP. You would also get around the same on the PK. I'll round to 12 minutes, that is high though. That is 20% of the game you are completely disregarding.

If there is around 48 minutes a night at 5 on 5, 12 minutes for 4 lines isn't too bad. Problem is the PP and PK.

Most teams got with 2 units on both, 3rd unit on PK gets a bit of ice for the forwards at least.

If you went with even splits on the PP and PK and went with 4 forwards and 1 d on the PP. 8 forwards are getting PP time. If Ras is back, I predict 7 will get regular time.

4 forwards and 4 d get PK time.

PP:

If you keep it even in an attempt to keep everyone happy, that is 3 mins max for any 1 player.

Kadri - +3
Huberdeau - +3
Coronato - +3
Frost - +3
Zary - +3
Sharangovich - +3
Coleman/Backlund/Farabee/Pospisil/Klapka

Weegar +3
Parekh +3
Ras +3

PK:

Backlund +3
Coleman +3
Huberdeau +3
Sharangovich/Farabee?

Ras +3
Weegar +3
Bahl +3
Pachal +3

The guys I picked are based on who played the most last year. Based on this Huberdeau gets 18 mins and if you keep Sharky on the PK, he gets 18 mins.

This situation will never happen as no matter how your team is constructed, guys like Kirkland and Lomberg aren't getting even ice with the rest. You can give some of their time to others, but at the end of the day the following will be unhappy with their ice time and production will slip

Kadri
Coronato
Zary
Frost
Backlund
Coleman
Farabee
Pospisil

8 forwards will be unhappy and if you give them more time, others have to lose.

Aho - 20 a night - over 5 on special teams
Barkov - 20 a night - almost 5 a night on special teams
Bennett - 17 a night - 2.5 mins a night on special teams
Stamkos - 18 a night - 3.25 a night on special teams
Kopitar - 19 a night - over 4 a night on special teams
Johnston - 19 a night - 4.5 a night on special teams
Hintz - 17 a night - 4 a night on special teams.

Any player who is elite on both ends and is on the PP and PK, typically gets less 5 on 5 than other star players. All the guys that you listed that are over 4 a night on special teams, play on both the PP and PK and their fair share of 5 on 5.

Last edited by Macho0978; 07-18-2025 at 12:28 PM.
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