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Old 07-11-2025, 11:15 AM   #10999
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What a BS copout. You can't just talk about how you don't want Palestine to exist, then try to weasel out of it by saying "both sides bad".

You completely ignore the fact that there is ONE occupier here. There is ONE oppressor that's doing the vast majority of the killing and destruction. It turns out when you murder everyone's families, oppress them with little opportunity, and control all their basic necessities, people get radicalized. But hey, as soon as you put "radical Islamic" together, it suddenly justifies the expulsion and ethnic cleansing of a people, right?

Isn't it ironic that the countries in the region that have been largely left to their own devices have done reasonably well (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Jordan), while the countries with significant western meddling (Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya) are the ones that are "fundy Islamic". Maybe think about what has driven them there.
Nothing justifies anything and I never said it did, what I said was there isnt any solution, nothing that we can do that will stop any of this and neither side is innocent nor does any outcome have a peaceful 'moral' end.

If Hamas wins they will murder every jew they can get a hold off, men women and children, all of them, am I supposed to support that??

Israel in charge is grim but it is a fait accompli and sod all any one does other than bring about the death of 3 million or so Israeli Jews is going to change that, there isnt some solution that gives Hamas power that doesn't end up in slaughter of jews beyond anything we have seen since Rwanda

You have some idea that can be sold to both sides I'm all ears
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