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Old 07-03-2025, 10:11 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug View Post
This where you lose the plot. Your level of outrage is your right, but people hear are telling you how they see the issue and how their outrage is not the level of yours. I think we can all agree that there are levels of complicity in this situation:

Perpetrator- can rot in hell
Management (Quennville, Bowman, other coaches and front office)- Suspension from the NHL for at least some time, arguably forever.
Players who insulted victim-Should have been suspended, but I can't see any world where that would be forever
Players who knew and did nothing-shameful act, open to ridicule, but suspension worthy? That is the discussion
Players who knew nothing-nothing

I don't recall the outrage when Kane moved on. Maybe it was there, but it wasn't based on homerism. He made millions more in earnings. Toews there was some discussion, but more so that he probably isn't a good player anymore. No real outrage.

Now we have Seabrook, a guy that is what? A part time player development coach? A guy that knows how to play defence and is now teaching defense? That is where we need to draw the line? The level of outrage does not match the harmful conduct nor the position Seabrook has been placed.

No team is beyond terrible behaviour (Canucks: see Virtanenen, Aquilini, Bertuzi, etc.). In fact any organization of any size will have these issues. I am at a smallish company, and unfortunately internal investigations of all shapes and sizes is part of my job. Sometimes that results in firings, but more often it results in more training, reprimands and the like. Not blackballing an individual forever, which seems to be your solution, unless you have other ideas you would like to share.
The point is, there are lots of people who can do this. I'd rather it not be people who as young people learned that passing the buck and keeping your mouth shut is the way to solve problems. All people like Seabrook have to do is just be honest about their part and apologize. It's not THAT hard. Certainly not as hard as what Beach has gone through.
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