[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

Having it be Vegas does #### the flames, regardless of why Andersson only wants to sign there. Having Andersson surely improves Vegas, which hurts the value of that first round pick. If he helps them win an extra playoff round or finish 2 or 3 places higher in the standings (say, if their pick drops from 26 to 29 or 30) - that gap in value is comparable to a 2nd or 3rd round pick. So Vegas needs to overpay Andersson's fair value by a 3rd rounder to make it worth our while.

But that's also a problem for a rental -- any other team that trades for Andersson can flip him there if he won't sign. Worst case scenario: rental return for Andersson, but he still ends up on Vegas. So I think any rental deal has to include a poison pill condition -- something to the effect of "if Andersson plays 1 game for Vegas this season, give an additional 2nd round pick to the Flames". But that lowers the value of a rental deal, which Vegas would know, which lowers their offer, and so on.

But if we're not getting a fair price, what's the need to trade him? I think it's pretty unlikely that no "2nd and a B prospect" trades are available throughout the season, and Andersson loses too if we sit tight and ride out the season (only being able to sign a 6-year deal next off-season vs. an 8-year deal for a sign-and-trade). My gut feel: if we stay patient, either Vegas ponies up the dough or Andersson softens his stance and ends up with an 8-year sign-and-trade to Tampa or Carolina or something.

Not sure if you can put a clause in any trade that if he is traded again we get an extra pick?