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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I’ve made around five posts on the subject of trans participation in sports. And never initiating the conversation - usually just responding to some simplistic, antagonistic approach of the kind McBride calls out as unhelpful.
You’re a wiz at digging up comments people have made in order to dunk on them. But you haven’t dug up any anti-trans comments from me, because there aren’t any. I’ve challenged some of the more simplistic, dogmatic takes on the issue, and you respond with personal attacks and accusations of bigotry. Because that’s who you are.
It’s funny that you thanked the video link. You know your behaviour on this forum is exactly what McBride is calling out in the interview, right? You could be the poster child for “abandoning persuasion.”
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Cliff, ten years ago when you were on here suggesting the idea of being anti-trans was made up, I was patiently persuading people and talking people off the ledge as they were being fed ridiculous misinformation about which washrooms transgender folks would use.
When you were complaining about trans activists and citing NP opinion columns quoting anti-trans mommy blogs, I was patiently dissecting the harm certain laws do, and quelling fears over doctors cutting kids’ genitals hp on a whim.
For the better part of the last ten years I’ve been very patient on topics like this. You can re-read Sliver’s post for a personal example. I’ve also exercised my right to have no patience and decide certain people aren’t worth the effort to persuade. So save your commentary about “my behaviour.”
Perhaps you should actually watch the video and see where you see yourself and ask yourself if it’s where you actually are, because you’ll notice she doesn’t advocate attempting to continue to persuade hate-speech peddling bigots (which is who you are, if you want to talk about who each of us happens to be). Answer honestly: who but a bigot would purposely, unapologetically use hate speech toward someone? Who but a bigot would double down on it when called out?
I don’t know, maybe you didn’t watch the video at all. People like Sliver, Corsi, Torque, IronMaiden, even fotze don’t use the right language (especially fotze, jesus) or don’t always agree or see where I’m coming from, but these folks are examples of the good people with good intentions. There’s so many examples of these types of people here. You on the other hand, there’s something rotten about your obsession. And it’s not your language or how slow you are to come around. Your heart ain’t right. There’s something ugly underneath. And it’s been the same for ten years.
Either way, grow up already and cut the “oh you do personal attacks!” stuff. On top of the hate speech, you’ve called me mentally challenged and lol’d at someone hoping I get murdered. If you want to dish it out like that, be a big boy and take it when you’re getting called out.
If you don’t think you’re a bigot, don’t lash out. Prove it. You can start by owning what you’ve said and genuinely apologizing, like an adult, without some backhanded comment or insult to go along with it. Or you can be exactly who pretend you’re not. Let’s see it. Because who but a bigot would find it difficult?