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Old 06-23-2025, 05:54 AM   #10
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Helps when we have a PM who has a trans kid, so he is well versed in what kind of discrimination they can face.

Never understood people who get all riled up about LGBTQ rights, events, or what not. Mind your own f'ing business and the world will be a better place.
Conservatives tend to see social roles such as gender as aspirational. A lot follows from just that.

For example, those people often believe that that's how everyone thinks of gender. They don't really understand that someone would genuinely just be happy for someone else without wanting to be that someone else.

They genuinely believe that people who accept the existence of a whole spectrum of gender and sexuality are not just accepting that other people are different., but that we are in fact pushing it as an alternative aspirational vision of gender roles. They believe that the whole discussion is not about "hey you should be nice to everyone", but rather it's an attempt to redefine what the "most aspirational" gender roles are. That's why they think it's "an agenda" that's "pushed on them" that will "destroy traditional families". They do genuinely think that "someone" is trying to say "everyone should be queer now'.

That's why they believe that there's people out there who are "triggered" by someone being openly heteronormative.

Also, when they have spent their lives trying to fit some gender role, they get pissed when others go "sure whatever you do you" about it, instead of proclaiming them the winners of gender as real manly men and tradwives.

These same people are just generally always policing everyone's gender, even for straight cis people. That's why it's "gay" or "not manly" to be attracted to strong women etc. Which of course is really ironic because despite their obsession with the fantasy of gender binary, conservatives are the ones who are also obsessively talking about gender in terms of who/what is more masculine or feminine or less... or in other words, they are the ones who center their whole lives around gender roles being a spectrum and being all about the social performance (right clothes, right job, right car...) instead of a simple biological reality.

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