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Old 06-19-2025, 11:22 PM   #294
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Maybe read up on your history or continue to avoid weighing in on a conflict you don’t understand, because you just contradicted yourself or conveniently omitted that detail in your first “take” on the subject.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-ir...3e4a486946bcb8

2010 — The Stuxnet computer virus is discovered and widely believed to be a joint U.S.-Israeli creation. The virus disrupted and destroyed Iranian centrifuges.

2020 — Alleged Israeli attacks against Iran’s nuclear program are stepped up significantly after the disintegration of the 2015 nuclear deal meant to keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

July 2020 — A mysterious explosion tears apart a centrifuge production plant at Iran’s Natanz nuclear enrichment facility. Iran blames the attack on Israel.

November 2020 — A top Iranian military nuclear scientist, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, is killed by a remote-controlled machine gun while traveling in a car outside Tehran. A top Iranian security official accuses Israel of using “electronic devices” to remotely kill the scientist, who founded Iran’s military nuclear program in the 2000s.

April 11, 2021 — An attack targets Iran’s underground nuclear facility in Natanz. Iran blames Israel, which does not claim responsibility, but Israeli media widely reports the government orchestrated a cyberattack that caused a blackout at the facility.

June 2022 — Iran accuses Israel of poisoning two nuclear scientists in different cities within three days of each other, though circumstances remain unclear.

Feb. 14, 2024 — An Israeli sabotage attack causes multiple explosions on an Iranian natural gas pipeline running from Iran’s western Chaharmahal and Bakhtiari province to cities on the Caspian Sea.

April 1, 2024 — An Israeli airstrike demolishes Iran’s Consulate in Damascus, Syria, killing 16 people, including two Iranian generals.

April 19, 2024 — A suspected Israeli strike hits an air defense system near an airport in Isfahan, Iran.

July 31, 2024 — Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is assassinated by an apparent Israeli airstrike during a visit to Tehran. Israel had pledged to kill Haniyeh and other Hamas leaders over the Oct. 7 attack.

Oct. 26, 2024 — Israel openly attacks Iran for the first time, striking air defense systems and sites associated with its missile program.

Friday, June 13, 2025 — Israel launches blistering attacks on the heart of Iran’s nuclear and military structure, deploying warplanes and drones previously smuggled into the country to assault key facilities and kill top generals and scientists

“They didn’t attack until now” lol jfc

This is not to show Iran as the victim or without blame. They supported Hamas. They’ve bombed Israel. Both much more relevant than “they invited David Duke to speak.” And among these Israeli strikes are Iranian strikes on Israel (some preceding, some not). But the idea that Israel has done nothing until now and were simply provoked into this isn’t an educated take on the conflict.
But... Doesn't this defeat the main pro-Iran talking point? The argument was that Israel and USA have been saying for decades that Iran is close to build a nuke but it never happened. So those claims were allegedly lies?

In the light of the above, could it be that Iran was indeed somewhat close to it and it only never happened because of intense attempts by Israel and USA to slow them down?

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