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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
honestly, i wonder if a guy like Messier was more valuable to their dynasty than Gretzky. I know numbers sell, and I know Cups are a team accomplishment, but I wonder
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Messier won two cups without Gretzky on teams where he was the best player and they weren't really elite supporting casts around him.
Outside of one season in LA, Gretzky never really got close again.
Gretzky was amazing and is at worst a top 3 player all time, but I think you could argue that Messier was the required grit needed to win come the playoffs that Gretzky just didn't have.
A bit like a version of Kane and Toews on steroids...and I think it's been discussed a lot which one of those two were more important to the Hawks with lots of people saying Toews even if he wasn't nearly as prolific.