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Originally Posted by Jason14h
Trading the Vet's isn't just to tank/get a better draft position. It is also to maximize their assets.
Coleman is 33. In 23/24 he got a career high 30 goals. Last year 18. Do we expect him to get better as he ages? He is a depreciating asset
Kadri is 35 and just got a career high 35 goals, and third best career 67 points. Do we expect him to get better as he ages? He is a depreciating asset
Weegar is 31. He had a career high 20 goals 2 seasons ago. He arguably played better or as good last season. He will soon become a depreciating asset
Now it can be argued the rate these assets are depreciating (and I could even buy an argument if they keep up their play as their contracts have less term they are more valuable) but the odds of older players continuing to have career years and hold their value are very low.
It is also a double edged sword. If these players hit the age wall, their value is much lower but the Flames are a worse team and can draft higher, but their trade value has decreased.
If they do well, the Flames may sneak into 8th but they can't/odds are against them acquiring top talent at the top of the draft.
If we are honest best case the Flames are 3-5 years from being a playoff contender. At that time non of these guys are going to be a part of the team except Weegar who would be 34-37.
Why limp around for the next few years as these assets depreciate being stuck in the middle hoping you come out in 3-5 years and have luckily drafted some elite talent lower in the draft? Why ship out 2nd and (3rd) picks for 25/26 year old guys like Frost and Farabee who will be 30 and expensive (best case) when this team is a contender? Why signs guys like Shag for 5 years instead of dealing for more picks and finding the next 20 year old Shag who will be in his prime as we start to contend.
Even Dallas - Who people want to emulate - finished in the bottom half of the standing for almost a decade before accumulating enough talent (and hitting 1 amazing draft)
Here is where Dallas picked when their rebuild started / when they started being bad.
2009 - 8th
2010 - 11th
2011 - 14th
2012 - 13th
2013 - 10th
2014 - 14th
2015 - 12th
2016 - 25th
2017 - 3rd (Won Lottery)
2018 - 13th
2019 - 19th
Dallas WAS stuck in the mushy middle for almost a decade before they hit their super draft. You could argue their model did fail for a decade.
No team in NHL history that I can remember has ever successfully re-tooled around an aging, non superstar core. The Flames are trying to become the first ever.
I like our odds!
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To be fair, I don’t think it is the flames intention to rebuild around an aging non-star core. I think it’s to build around a young group of players buttressed by an ageing group of players and I suspect that, over time these aging players will be phased out.
It sounds highly likely Andersson will be dealt around the draft and there maybe an outside chance Coleman is as well. What happens with Backlund at the deadline?
There is a case here to believe that the current Andersson, Weegar, Huberdeau, Kadri, Coleman group could be down to Weegar, Kadri Huberdeau this time next year.