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Old 06-11-2025, 07:40 PM   #16801
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Thanks..what part of their circumstance disproves that he kept them stuck in the middle? They had injuries to Markov and Gionta that year and a lack of scoring from a veteran heavy team. They were bottom 10 in scoring like our Flames. They went right back to the middle the year after. If he wasn’t there they would have drafted higher. He kept Montreal somewhat relevant and stuck in the middle. If the Flames sustain an Injury to Weeger and Coronato or somebody ages out they might end up drafting high one year to. That doesn’t mean it’s a plan. They really need to move a few more vets if they are keeping Wolf to facilitate things. Statistically as I mentioned keeping your vets, drafting middle round picks and trying to inch the team forward with middle six acquisitions doesn’t work and the examples were pretty on point that it never works. It only works if you get the elite C and D first or you are willing to move enough vets to tank with Wolf. Hoping for an injury or a one off season to get a high pick is a concept of a plan.
Moving a few more vets isn’t a plan either. They moved the vast majority of them and were still in the cusp of the playoffs. They actually improved. They could move Kadri, Coleman, and Andersson and still improve. Maybe it’s a “concept of a plan”?

Saying “it only works if you get the elite C first” just isn’t represented by the stats. You’re reading that because that’s what you want it to say. It would have worked for Montreal if Galchenyuk turned out.

It worked for Pittsburgh. Worked for Chicago too.

Pretty sure they were two of the most dominant teams for a stretch of years there. It also worked for Anaheim. And St.Louis.

The list of Stanley Cup winning elite centers that were drafted or acquired before their goaltender is actually pretty small.
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