06-06-2025, 11:50 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
TLJ is worse for me simply because it completely obliterates Luke as a character. The guy refused to strike down Darth Vader, the 2nd most evil person in the galaxy, because he was family and he still saw some good in him. Then a few years later we're supposed to believe he fires up his lightsaber while his nephew is sleeping because he senses a bit of darkness? So goddamn dumb, and we're not even touching the whole hermit bull####. Luke was such a great character in so many of the legends books, they had so many stories they could have pulled from, but no, Rian had to be edgy
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To be fair to Rian Johnson, the idea of Luke being an old hermit living in seclusion who had cut himself off from the Force was an idea that came straight from George Lucas' original storyboards and drafts for the sequels.
You can still blame Johnson for everything else though, so have at it.
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/sta...the-last-jedi/
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As revealed by The Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi (via Slashfilm), Johnson’s movie used many of the concepts Lucas first had in mind for Episode VII, specifically the story of an older, broken Luke training a young, Force-sensitive disciple named Kira (later renamed “Rey”).
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Lucas’ biggest contribution to The Last Jedi was the Luke/Rey story itself, which he’d originally planned for Episode VII, as confirmed by Lucasfilm Story Group member Pablo Hidalgo on Twitter (via Comicbook.com).
The idea played out much like what we saw in Johnson’s movie: Luke is down and out on a distant planet thirty years after the fall of the Empire. A new hope named Kira finds the old Jedi Master and they begin her training. We would have seen Luke struggling with his failure to stop the Jedi Killer (renamed “Kylo Ren”) from destroying his Jedi Academy.
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“[Luke] always had this potential dark side within him, being that his father was Darth Vader,” explained Lucasfilm executive creative director Doug Chiang of the character’s arc in the early days of Episode VII. “So he is really struggling with that. He ended up secluding himself in this Jedi temple on a new planet, and he’s just there meditating, reassessing his whole life. Gradually, over the arc of the movie, he rediscovers his vitality and comes back to himself.”
Eventually, Luke would have regained his mojo while teaching Kira the ways of the Force and rejoined the fight. That’s basically the skeleton of The Last Jedi‘s plot.
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