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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
And that's a well put counter to my post.
There are inconsistencies on both sides that cast doubt on their claims.
She didn't do what one would expect in a coercive situation with the opportunity to both slip out and to call or message for help. And the stories from the men deviate at key points which may indicate dishonesty and/or covering for details that would be incriminating.
That's why this case probably isn't black and white but the truth is somewhere in the middle. There could have been both egging on as well as action taken by the accused that went too far for her to be considered consentual.
Perhaps charges needed to be restricted to the most egregious participants. My concern is that there are guilty parties within the five but it may not be all five who should be sentenced in the end. And given the doubt the defense has generated around her claims that the group as a whole gets off lightly.
I haven't been following all the details but that's just my general thoughts around what I've seen and heard.
Regardless of what happens, these guys need to feel the consequences because this was a very suspect situation and in the end, they all stood idly by and allowed it to progress and/or directly participated in it and escalating the acts being performed.
Dube as the captain in that situation really dropped the ball regardless of whether his claims (which seem dubious and incomplete) are true or not. You can only hope he's learned a lesson here, but given the attitude of these guys in foreign interviews, etc, it doesn't really sound like it.
Hopefully a team like the soulless oilers doesn't give one of these players an opportunity well before one should be extended (this should be a joke but sadly it's not).
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They can fine only one or more guilty if they so chose. It's not all or nothing.