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Originally Posted by SutterBrother
A few pages ago someone was talking about outcomes. I've been thinking about it since.
The only outcome I see stopping the bloodshed here is the Israeli people removing Benjamin Netanyahu's government from office.
The IDF has laid waste to Gaza and will continue to do so. They will use every means (including starvation) to push Palestinians to the borders in the hopes they flee to other Arab nations. It is ethnic cleansing.
Hamas will never surrender (and are generally happy to use human shields and be sent to paradise because they are a death cult). They will also keep every hostage as long as they can for leverage. They have no humanity.
The US under Trump is lead by a moron, fully supportive of Netanyahu, hates Muslims, and loves arms sales. This won't change over the next 4 years. Their ideal outcome is likely Gaza (and eventually the west bank) being ethnically cleansed of Palestinians.
The global community doesn't care about the Palestinians. In particular, the local middle eastern nations don't want the Palestinians to become "their problem", and will not permit them to resettle. No nation wants to be involved in the conflict, or has a reason to invest in stopping it. The resolutions in the UN and public statements may play with the "Free Palestine" movements in their countries, but are meaningless on the ground.
College campus protests are college kids doing college things that will have zero impact.
You might see more one off terrorist murders like the other day as social media radicalizes a subset of online idiot losers into "action". This will deepen the security apparatus in Western Democracies, likely push society further to the right, and probably create a significant backlash to Muslim communities.
So - to my mind the only people left who could possibly stop this would be the Israeli community who recognizes how disproportionate the Netanyahu response has become. I hope they are a majority, and can take power in an election.
I hope they get a chance soon - the death toll is going to rise beyond what anyone has seen so far very quickly as disease and starvation are deepened in the death mix of Gaza.
I am open to being wrong.
I would appreciate other alternatives if you have them.
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I'd argue that the US has always been fully supportive of Netanyahu, hates Muslims, and loves arms sales. I understand that under other administrations there's been public calls for Israel to stop whatever brutal killing campaign they happen to be executing at that time, but words mean little when behind the scenes, America continues to sell arms to Israel and be the only UN member to support Israel at the UN every time without exception.