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Originally Posted by Vinny01
A lot of GM’s trade picks for depth players
A lot of GM’s trade 1st rounders for shut down Dmen
Some GM’s have 7 head coaches who work for them in 11 years in the role
I am sure another GM has lost a top 10 scorer for nothing in free agency before but has there been a GM who has lost 2? If Marner walks that is the case with Brad.
You say he is an average (maybe above average?) GM.
I think he is one of the worst.
Agree to disagree
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You’re really stretching.
Most/nearly all GM’s trade picks for depth players while in contention. That’s not a criticism that means much.
7 coaches in 11 years removes all context. Was he supposed to know about Peters? I guess, technically, Geoff Ward counts too. To jog your memory though, Ward took over on an interim basis then there was this thing called the pandemic that hit. So perhaps, maybe, just maybe, the Calgary Flames operating budget changed and, all things being equal, Ward could fill in on a short term basis until things got back to normal. I’ll go out on a limb and say Geoff Ward would have been towards gge bottom of the league on the pay scale for head coaches. If you know anything about Edwards, that would fit the bill. Let’s also bear in mind this was the time Treliving’s started talking to Sutter about the job. I think both have acknowledged that. And the thing about hiring a person is although you can offer them the job, they have to accept it. Maybe Sutter, who had retired, wasn’t convinced he wanted to leave the farm just yet. I’ll connect the dots, Ward was a lame duck. Treliving and ownership wanted Sutter and were willing to be patient.
Your criticism that Marner is on Brad’s watch is also misguided. He had nothing to do with Mariner’s current contract. It’s also well known that he tried to enter negotiations with Mariners camp at multiple points this season. It’s also well known Marner nixed a deal to Carolina for Rantenin. For context, Marner’s NTC, was given to him by a Dubas, not Treliving. In fact, there’s plenty of smoke around the reason Dubas list his job was because of a fundamental difference he had with Shanahan about trading Marner while they could. Shanahan did not want to.
Look, Treliving deserves criticism, all GM’s do, but you looking to blame him for things that weren’t in his control, it weakens your argument.
You may think he’s one of the worst but, if that’s the case, why did the Flames want to keep him and why is he now the GM of the richest/most valuable hockey franchise on the planet? Or maybe number 2 behind the NYR’s.