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Old 05-08-2025, 09:40 PM   #26244
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The Cons got 42%. You don’t think 1/8 share the views of the PPC if you knew it wouldn’t cause vote splitting?
I am not sure where you are trying to get to ... do you think the current first past the post system is somehow better than a MMPR system? Are you unsure what the difference is between MMPR and PR?

To answer your question: Yes, I think the PPC has been working hard to build an alternative to the Conservative Party since Maxime Bernier lost the Conservative Party leadership race to Sheer. I think the PPC are a terrible party of fear and hate covered in the lipstick of "FREEDOM" and their platform is full of misinformation.

In 2021 they made it to 840K votes, which is a big step up from the 2019 election but still below the 5% mark. But even if they make it to the 5% threshold in a MMPR system, that just means they get a seat in government. It does not mean that they automatically get party status, which is currently defined as needing 12 seats (and that party status requirement is likely to go up if we add more seats in a new government system that has more seats to it). Without party status, they would essentially be sitting in the house like Independents. The Green party has been showing us for decades how ineffective holding 1 or 2 seats can be, so again I am not entirely sure what the concern is?

Also, all of the votes they capture are votes they are taking away from the Conservatives... so I do not think that is a bad thing as I would rather see those fringe groups outside of a mainstream party instead of in the center of one. (Reform)

Having said all of that, I think the cure to these kinds of parties is education. An educated population can see through these parties and their culture war BS. (This is why most right wing governments work so hard to undermine and attack education systems)
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