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Old 04-29-2025, 12:07 PM   #882
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Originally Posted by bizaro86 View Post
I guess it's reasonable to disagree that "hollowing out Canada's tax base to save shareholders' money" counts as "wonders".
Most of those tax moves were done before his time as chair. And the shareholders included the Ontario Teachers Pension as one of the largest.

Anyway, To anyone who actually wants to know what's going on here:

BAM (not Carney himself) has investment funds (think ETFs) that people buy into and sell out of like a stock

The fund then spreads that money across a range of different investments

When BAM gains money from these investments, it would 'normally' (not usually) be taxed on the gains at this point (likely upwards of 30% if it was based in Canada)

When Canadians want to sell their stake in the fund, they also normally have to pay capital gains tax in Canada - this is what's being referred to as potential 'double taxation'

Non-canadians invested in the fund would also be subject to the taxation at the fund level as well as whatever applicable capital gains tax for where they're from

This means that investors would end up getting significantly less returns than they would by investing in assets directly

It also means that gains that would normally be exempt (eg pension funds, TFSAs, RRSPs, etc) would end up being subject to significant taxes

When non tax-exempt entities cash out on gains from the fund, they still have to pay taxes wherever they're based, whether that's in Canada or elsewhere

So, the result of the funds being based in Bermuda is essentially that investing in the fund becomes more or less equal with investing in the assets directly instead of being strictly worse due to the taxation at both levels.

If they didn't do something like this, not only would it be uncompetitive with other investment funds - it probably wouldn't make sense to invest in at all.
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