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Old 04-25-2025, 09:51 AM   #1289
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
No, all events are not counted. For example, you win a board battle and get possession and try to pass to a team-mate - great play, but the pass bounces over their stick or is deflected, resulting in no shot and no stat. MOST events generate no points for xGF/A.

And again, it has no measure for time and space. You have not addressed that in any way. And you can't because it is a fact.

The last argument is always "it's the best we've got". Yes, it is. But that doesn't make it good, or useful. What it does though, is make it regularly referenced, and accepted as useful, simply by existing.

But for small sample sizes - where it is used most often, unfortunately - it is highly misleading and rarely of much value.
Yeah I meant all shot attempts are counted.

I'd say it is useful in that it's the best tool we have and often matches the eye test really well.

I've never heard an argument for why a measure that counts bad and good things would ever be useless or irrelevant in determining if a player had a good game.

If you spend more time in your own zone there will be more shot attempts against. If, while you are on the ice, more of those shots are dangerous I'd say you had a rough game if these occurrences are less by average over the season.

I'll say it again ... I'm not married to this as a final solution, and look forward to better definition of chances going forward, but it beats every other measure available including the eye test that is subjective.
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