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Originally Posted by Royle9
I’ll play devils advocate here and say that Vladar, Andersson and 2 late 1st’s wouldn’t be enough for SJ to trade the 3rd.
1 - Andersson’s going to be 29 looking for a big contract. His play this year declined significantly and his impact out there was noticeable to all teams.
2 - Our 1st’s are going to be late round picks, nothing of impact most likely
3 - Other teams could offer better, Florida’s for example is looking to move Ekblad who is likely more desirable than Andersson
4 - How well does Andersson fit the window for SJ? I see a fit, but I don’t know about the price. They could wait 1 more year and get him for free, I don’t think they’re pushing for a cup next season.
When it comes to these types of trades I always reverse the idea in my head and act as if Calgary had the 3rd pick. Would I be happy to toss that away for Andersson and 2 late 1sts?? I’m not so sure, maybe last year when Andersson looked like a completely different player.
Guess it would come down to where SJ wants to be and if they think he can turn it around there for them.
I’d argue if they were defensively focused they would maybe blink at it if you threw in 1 of Bruz, Morin or Mews as well.
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Right now, the Sharks do not have a top pair and at best they have a hodgepodge of second / third pair defenders. Dickenson has great potential but is years away. If their plan is to stop living in the NHL basement then they are going to need to push Ferraro and Liljegren out of their top pair by the end of the summer.
1 - I still think that this board devalues Andersson much more harshly than the rest of the league (not you necessarily, just a lot of the posters in general). Ignoring the excuse of him playing on a broken foot, I think most GMs would evaluate him as a 1B/2A defender who is currently carrying too much of the workload after Conroy gutted the Flames D by shipping out Hanifin, Tanev, and Zadorov. Andersson is playing 1st pair minutes and is doing so with a guy who is effectively in his second full season in the league. (Also, while Bahl was injured Andersson's situation was even harder.) With a stronger D partner, Andersson would be good in the top pair.
4- The main thing to consider about Andersson is that he still looks to be the best available UFA D in the 2026 class and I think there is very little chance he is still available by then. If the Flames move him this summer, then any team receiving him is going to expect that he gets an extension (and the Flames will want to move him with said extension to increase the trade value). The tough part is that the draft happens before an extension can be worked out... and if Ekblad is plan A, they won't know if they can land him until July.
3- Florida offering Ekblad's negotiation rights is worth significantly less than Andersson under contract for another year, even if Ekblad is the better player. Much to your own point, the Sharks can just wait a month and get Ekblad for free. But I do agree that there are likely other teams that can put together a better package... I am just not sure how many of those teams are motivated to actually do so. The Flames are super motivated to try and get either the Sharks or Blue Jackets' picks, if the cost isn't insane.
2- I agree on the 1st. I only include it because I am sure the Sharks would still want a pick in the first round back in the trade. I don't know if they care about getting both of the Flames 1sts as they already have an extra from the Stars and a massive logjam of a prospect pool. Note: The Sharks are sitting at 45/50 contracts right now with 26 non-roster players and 22 players on their reserve list.
I think the main thing would be to combine Andersson with one of the better D prospects (Brzustewicz, Kuznetsov, Morin, Mews) which would give the Sharks immediate and future help at D. But one wouldn't need to go crazy with the offer as the draft doesn't have the "generational" or "franchise" level talent of other drafts. Also, the news that the CBJ pick may be up for grabs may also undermine the value of the Sharks pick.