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Originally Posted by GGG

The NDPs legacy is national daycare, and subsidized dental and pharmacare. They were the most effective NDP government. Singh delivered more for the NDP than anyone other than Tommy D.

Sure. I can certainly agree they were effective in this.

The Narrative that Singh failed just isnt well founded.

The NDP was and will never be a governing party, forming government should never be the measure of success of a party. Actively advancing policy goals is the measurement and by that measure he was highly successful. He was well positioned to take advantage of a JT minority government.

This I disagree with. The NDP could absolutely be a governing party if it so chooses and nearly did so in 2015, at times being ahead of both the Liberals and CPC in polling. The NDP's incredible regression to a point it is today, is absolutely a failure of Singh's leadership.

Being the junior party of a coalition propping up a deeply unpopular leader long past his expiry date was one of the NDP's biggest mistakes they could have done and it likely has cost them official party status which is a huge deal for a cash strapped party trying to remain relevant. The argument being made is that since dental care and the framework for pharma care was implemented, this advancement in policies was worth the sacrifice. I understand the argument.

He also prevented the conservative majority from being elected by propping up Treudeu giving him a chance to resign. A move that while costing his party seats gave Canadians a real choice.

Singh was a great party leader.

Singh lost a large part of the NDP base to both the Liberals and Conservatives by ignoring the working class. When Liberals enacted work actions on multiple occasions (Westjet / rails / Canada Post), Singh did nothing. When Canadians were in a cost of living crisis, Singh continuously backed the deeply unpopular and now defunct carbon tax and unpopular Liberal policies.

Without a black swan event hitting the Conservatives and their inability to pivot against Trump's aggression while giving Liberals a major nationalist / anti-populist boost, Conservatives likely win a landslide majority. To claim the shift as somehow being attributed as a NDP success is an odd take.

Currently Liberals are expected to land a majority by shifting significantly further right fiscally than under Trudeau, without the need of the NDP anymore and called this election of their own volition. I personally believe pharmacare will likely go away or deteriorate sometime in Carney's tenure with a majority government, with only the dental plan remaining.

Singh took control of a party that had 20% of the popular vote and has dragged it down to the depth of single digits for a few feathers in his cap by sacrificing it's relevance to Canadians and many of their own voters with only the floor die hards remaining. I see this as a leadership failure, you and a few others see this and advancement of party policies as a success. We will agree to disagree on this.

That's my personal subjective opinion of course