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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

This is what I am talking about, how would a young man 18-29 read this and want to agree with you?

lol he’s not wrong though, case in point:

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I think you're missing the point. Folks like Jordan Peterson are not causal, they are symptomatic.




men are also more likely to abuse drugs, experiencing nearly twice as many overdoses

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...9-summary.html

men are also more likely to experience homelessness

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/...023004-eng.htm


Again, I don't think that this is the fault of the liberal party or progressive initiatives. But certainly, left wing rhetoric is not sympathetic to these realities.

Sorry, left wing rhetoric isn’t concerned with overdosing and homelessness? Progressive initiatives are heavily concerned with solving both of those things.

Somehow, DEI initiatives are problematic because they’re too focused on specific genders/races/etc. But initiatives centred around homelessness and drug addiction are problematic because they’re not focused enough on a specific gender? And then too problematic if they focus on the fact that indigenous people are disproportionately represented in both, of course. But I don’t see any evidence of any sort of denial that “men” are excluded in conversations around drug abuse and homelessness.

I find this a little bit frustrating, to be honest, because it seems like the problem is, ultimately, it’s problematic to focus on any gender or race if it isn’t young white men. I know that’s not what you’re meaning to say, and I know that’s isn’t the general sentiment for most people discussing this (I think for one or two people it is for sure), but you can see how this conversation is mostly people pointing out solutions that create different problems.

You (the general “you”) can’t be both against DEI or initiatives that include a a dedicated race/gender focus and also feel young white men aren’t being focused on enough. You’d want to augment, not dismantle.