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Originally Posted by rubecube
Cliff, you and I have had this discussion before. If capitalists want to engage in more class-based discourse, most actual leftists are here for it. However, every time we try to move in that direction, it's generally liberals and conservatives who don't want to go there and upset the applecart.
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Or we could make a genuine effort to understand issues regardless of who’s bringing them up.
If you don’t want to talk about issues faced by boys and young men because it’s something conservatives talk about, or because some people who talk it don’t want to talk about racism of sexism, then okay, don’t talk about it. But the point raised in this thread is that conceding young men to the populist right is bad and stupid politics. And beyond that, failing men are bad for society in general - for their parents, their employers, and for women.