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Burninator · 07-10-2007, 08:46 AM

Interesting debate going on here, I like it. I'll give my thoughts.

Trying her as an adult and locking her up for 25 years will do nothing but satisfy total outsiders such as the people in this thread. She would be 38 when she gets out. I am no psychologist but I bet someone who spends their teens and most of their adult life in prison is hardly going to be rehabilitated. More than likely she would never be able to be a functioning member of society. Her chance of repeat offending I bet would be would be great.

I don't believe a 12 year old knows the full consequences of her actions. Firefly made some interesting points that no one responded to. 12 year olds aren't given any responsibility in society and the points about statutory rape are also worth looking at. One the one hand if murder wasn't involved the boyfriend would have likely faced some jail time and the girl would have been the victim despite the sex being consensual. However once murder is involved the sex is looked at as her only being more crazy. Why is there this jump? Now, I don't want to debate how murder is a much greater leap in the thought process, I know that. But I still think a 12 year old is very impressionable and is not the same as someone 5 years older. So with that said, she has a much greater chance of rehabilitating than someone who does the same crime when they are twenty years older.

However I do think the punishment could be greater. The YJA seems to treat you like you are two different people. One person is younger than 18 so the punishment is exclusive to that age range and the other person is over 18 and can be punished much, much more harshly. The disparity being the two is way too great in my mind.

Also I am surprised at this talk as compared to the Chris Benoit thread. People were much more bleeding hearts in there because they watched him on tv. Anyone in that thread that called Benoit a monster was pounced on. How was his any different? Benoit is clearly an adult who knows full well the consequences of his actions. People were giving him excuses left right and centre. How many people in Chris Benoit's age range kill their family? Countless. How many 12 year olds kill their family? Not a lot. Obviously both have something wrong with their brain at the time, but I would think that the younger one is the anomaly.

07-10-2007, 08:46 AM	#103
Burninator Franchise Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Exp:	Interesting debate going on here, I like it. I'll give my thoughts. Trying her as an adult and locking her up for 25 years will do nothing but satisfy total outsiders such as the people in this thread. She would be 38 when she gets out. I am no psychologist but I bet someone who spends their teens and most of their adult life in prison is hardly going to be rehabilitated. More than likely she would never be able to be a functioning member of society. Her chance of repeat offending I bet would be would be great. I don't believe a 12 year old knows the full consequences of her actions. Firefly made some interesting points that no one responded to. 12 year olds aren't given any responsibility in society and the points about statutory rape are also worth looking at. One the one hand if murder wasn't involved the boyfriend would have likely faced some jail time and the girl would have been the victim despite the sex being consensual. However once murder is involved the sex is looked at as her only being more crazy. Why is there this jump? Now, I don't want to debate how murder is a much greater leap in the thought process, I know that. But I still think a 12 year old is very impressionable and is not the same as someone 5 years older. So with that said, she has a much greater chance of rehabilitating than someone who does the same crime when they are twenty years older. However I do think the punishment could be greater. The YJA seems to treat you like you are two different people. One person is younger than 18 so the punishment is exclusive to that age range and the other person is over 18 and can be punished much, much more harshly. The disparity being the two is way too great in my mind. Also I am surprised at this talk as compared to the Chris Benoit thread. People were much more bleeding hearts in there because they watched him on tv. Anyone in that thread that called Benoit a monster was pounced on. How was his any different? Benoit is clearly an adult who knows full well the consequences of his actions. People were giving him excuses left right and centre. How many people in Chris Benoit's age range kill their family? Countless. How many 12 year olds kill their family? Not a lot. Obviously both have something wrong with their brain at the time, but I would think that the younger one is the anomaly.