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Old 03-24-2025, 10:35 PM   #144
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
The whole innie elimination thing is not really explained. At the beginning of season 2 the crew minus Mark was effectively fired but when re-hired, their innies resumed from where they left off. If for whatever reason Irving was invited back to work for Lumen would he get a new innie or would they resurrect his innie? This makes me wonder if an innie can truly be eliminated from an outie if they later reintegrate.
I'm pretty sure that what we've been led to believe so far is that the innie is still technically part of an individual's psyche. As far as we know, Lumon doesn't technically implant the personality, they isolate something that creates that personality. But we also seem to know that Helly R isn't quite what they were expecting as the result of Helena Eagan's innie. That being said, the innies are quite naive and typically easily brain washed into believing all sorts of stuff (minus Helly R). Early episodes, they discuss and debate things like what they think the outside looks like.

The disappearance of an innie is more philosophical (per the video camera and other discussions earlier in the series). Season 2 seemed to spend a bunch of time wrestling with the idea and blurring the lines about whether the innie is part of the original individual, or a distinctly separate individual. We have this about the hell/heaven debate with Burt, the anger Dylan has for his innie, then the acceptance of his innie, etc.

My understanding is that the innie "elimination" thing isn't true elimination/death. It's a philosophical debate about being both part of the same person, yet distinctly separate. Imagine if you were to do something that would ultimately lead towards you to end up in a coma where you don't know if you'll wake up. That's perhaps the first part of what Mark S is concerned about. The second part is then what happens upon reintegration, someone has to take precedence and someone has to lose something. Mark S/Scout is no longer separate and cannot simultaneously pursue his love interest with Helly R and Gemma. Someone is forced to cede to the other. There was a section where Mark S discusses reintegration and how Mark Scout likely take precedence because he has existed longer than Mark S. Even though it is it's own hell, Mark S technically has his own life and his own time in Lumon. Reintegration causes him to lose that life and time he calls his own and it was one of the things he mentioned in the conversation.
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