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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Nailed it. StickMan’s comment wasn’t close to the first on here, but 2ArmBands is pretty conveniently ignoring the fact that the Conservative supporter sentiment is very pro-Trump and anti-Canadian, and that extends right up through high ranking politics like MPs and the Premier of Alberta.
PP is beholden to these people. He’s spent years kowtowing to them. Anyone who believes that doesn’t not and will not have a significant impact has their head in the sand.
I think he’s getting at the fact that it’s more complicated and less straightforward than your “just build it! why aren’t they building it!” comments let on.
It would probably be helpful if “it” wasn’t just “any pipeline” if it’s supposed to be a comment anyone takes seriously. It’s going to take years. It’s been days. Even in the most optimistic, bullish “push it forward and F everyone who stands in our way” approach it’s going to be a lot slower than you want it to be.
“Building the ####ing pipeline” is fun to say though. And this isn’t a criticism. I get the sentiment. We’re just going to have to be realistic.
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Yep all fair comments. I don’t think the building of a pipeline is all that Herculean though.
Of course oil CEOs aren’t planning for it- it’s a god awful investment when layering in even the most basic level of risk. From a regulatory, land acquisition, construction, and red tape standpoint this country has made a relatively straightforward task an insanely risky proposition so yeah as I have already said the government of Canada needs to build it. Also we make steel in Quebec, don’t we? Sounds like pipe material.
Moreover, it’s more likely the public threat and early stages of building a line give you a huge amount of leverage in trade negotiations. The American refineries that rely on our oil will freak out. In fact we have already seen that they’re making plans to transition their refineries off Canadian crude so who knows how serious or long that takes- but if it is serious we are absolutely ####ed. Again +60 trade surplus with Canada but when you layer in oil and gas it drops to -200 so it literally is the swing here. Which means it’s by far our biggest piece of leverage in negotiations.
Lastly, the government literally just finished building a pipeline. So, I’m pretty sure we can borrow a lot of the same learnings, procurement, plans, follow the same building guidelines etc etc etc for a new line. Plan it to the open space on the south part of the inlet of Prince Rupert, twin the existing cross provincial lines that run from basically Dawson out to that point and start building trenches.
Surveying could take a couple months, mobilize a #### load of crews, like get aggressively after it. Again it’s all these actions (that you can be public about) to leverage trade negotiations or protect Canadian sovereignty. Nobody is coming to Canadas defence unless we’re willing to trade them the resources they’ve been asking for now for over a decade or more.