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Originally Posted by MrButtons
Thanks belsarius, bringing this back cause I was hoping I could ask a quick question since you've been open about this. is there anything that could happen that would make you not want to vote for Carney, and instead go back to NDP?
Most of the support for Libs right now is being bled from by other parties, whereas conservatives are unchanged. I'm assuming that's why there is going to be no media, conservates aren't trying to find new voters, but ensure they keep their own. Anyways, the risk to the liberals is over the campaign, people like you wont support Carney. Do you think that's an option? Or is it more of the non-PP, rather than Pro-Carney?
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Great question. For me personally it is a little bit of non-CPC (I think the root of the issue is the backrooms of the CPC and not necessarily the leader), but a lot of pro-Carney. As he started to pop his head as a possibility in politics, I took time to listen to some Reith Lectures he gave and read his book.
What popped out for me with Carney is that he isn't a normal banker in the sense of current Neoliberal economics that dominate the western world. He quoted theory from Adams, Marx, Friedman and Keynes. This demonstrated to me that he wasn't just focused on one aspect of economics but understanding all viewpoints.
He is a strong proponent of doing something about climate change, but in a way that is not disastrous to the economy. His continually points to how we have moved from a Market Economy to a Market Society, and the dangers that come with it. His view that we need to stop humanity from working for the Market and start making the Market work for humanity really resonates with me as a leftist.
It would take a pretty big gaffe right now to move me back to the NDP because I am completely disenchanted with Singh's leadership. I can agree that he got a good deal policy wise from his supply deal with Trudeau, but as a leader, his inability to stand firm is disconcerting.
That said, Carney going all in on pipelines, disregarding all environmental protections would give me pause on him. In light of Trump I have moved from "no new pipelines", to "yes, we need to ensure we are not relying on infrastructure outside our borders". So some national fossil fuel projects I can now live with pragmatically, but open season is a non-starter for me.
I still support the NDP, I support strong labour legislation, strong environmental protections and strong support systems. The irony I am seeing in this whole situation, is that I actually see Carney as someone who will stand up for those same ideals policy wise but talk about them quietly. Where Trudeau was very loud about those ideals, but very weak when it actually came to those policies.
I don't see Carney as a shift to the centre, I never viewed the Trudeau government as moving to the left, they just played the part of being leftist. I see him as someone who will pragmatically make those ideals happen, not just virtue signal them. Very much how I feel Notley did in her term as Premier.