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Old 02-02-2025, 12:40 PM   #424
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Gateway was literally never happening though. There were 200 conditions to even get it approved, and that was under Harper. Then you had a pile of FN challenges that were preparing to run that to the Supreme Court. I understand that people hate Trudeau and want to pin this all on Justin being anti oil, but that’s the reality of the situation.

It’s like people are already discounting how much opposition there was (and added expense, trials and tribulations) get TMX built. That was a freaking expansion along an existing path, where it was far more cut and dried. Just building Gateway or other major projects is fraught with difficulties and challenges.

And…not saying this is you, but conflating this trade way with “we need new markets” as a solution is just hilarious to me. I agree we do. But, we’ll just go ahead and set that up literally tomorrow to avert the tariff impact starting Tuesday?
No one is saying these projects aren't challenging, especially now with the Trudeau's government's new laws, specifically C69. This is the problem though, it's clearly too difficult to get things that need to get built, built. So the government needs to change the laws, streamline the process, do what needs to be done. This passive "oh well, too hard, whaddya gonna do" has been plaguing this country for too long and people are still doing it! Insane. No one would accept this kind of paralysis for other initiatives that need to get done, if there was a quagmire of laws and rules and consultations to get sewer lines and water treatment plants built no one would be sat around shrugging their shoulders and saying "guess we just have to put up with sewage flowing through our streets forever, the laws man, the courts, it's too challenging. Oh well"

And yeah, you're right, there's no solution to our pipeline problem by tuesday. Correct. The funny part about decades long abstaining from solving problems is that there's no instant fix, that's why you think ahead and do it before it becomes an emergency. Aren't you a financial planner if I remember correctly? If some 50 year old comes to you and says they're screwed because they haven't been saving for retirement are you in a position to offer them an instant fix? No?. I'd imagine you'd tell them (because you're good at your job) that they need to start saving and cutting costs today. How does that help them right now, in this moment? IT DOESN'T. NOTHING CAN HELP YOU INSTANTLY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. But if you start now you can be a 70 year old with *some* savings instead of walking in with the exact same problem year over year over year and never actually doing anything about it.

This isn't the only aspect of this trade war but it is AN aspect, and something that needs to get addressed immediately. Before another decade goes by and I have to read people saying that a pipeline won't help us by tuesday.

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