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Old 01-18-2025, 01:42 AM   #10454
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Originally Posted by CroFlames View Post
Yeah, no. "Ukraine killing civilians" means Ukrainian authorities are actively seeking out, targeting and destroying civlian structures and persons. That is not happening.

The first link is to a story about Ukrainian drones clearly targeting infrastructure that helps the war effort, which are legitimate targets. The single civilian that was killed was clearly not targeted.

The 2nd link doesn't work.

The third link is comically bad "journalism". Like, what does civilians regularly killed even mean? Ukraine is murdering 5,000 Russian civilians per day?
The first story is about several Ukrainian drones striking several residential buildins, killing one woman in process. They didn't try to target any military infrastructure, there's none in Moscow.

Here's another link for the same news as in the second link

https://www.voanews.com/a/ukrainian-...s/7902088.html

Third link is not a bad journalism, Ukrainian drone strike killed 3 civilians in Belgorod. If you google the text, you'd see others reporting the same.

Ukraine does systematically attack Russian civilian structures, including smashing drones against residential buildings and blocking the civilian airports, although it does not seek to kill civilians per se and death toll from such attacks is notably small. Most likely, their goal is to scare a population, diminish a support for the war - however small at the first place - and hopefully create some kind of public unrest.

Even in rhe western media you could find number of reports on it, such as

https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainia...-media-report/


https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/russ...attack-6420941

Interestingly how Russian authorities themselves downplayed it, saying that the building was hit by "falling debris" of a drone, even though it is obviously not the case:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ys-2024-08-26/


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66094744

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