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Old 01-16-2025, 08:18 AM   #134
Enoch Root
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree View Post
People were having a normal, polite conversation before you came in with random, condescending comments alluding to made up comparisons between YMCA/NHL entertainment values and how complex the world is. You find people insufferable because they give back to you what you put out.

You’re welcome to start again and just assume people know the basics. Yes, we all know the city can spend more on more than one thing. But, as you acknowledged which had already been pointing out, the budget IS finite and there are MANY things which need funding. Not everything gets funding, or the level of funding it truly needs. So questions over whether some projects make more financial sense or have more community value matter. That’s also part of how these decisions are made.

Anyway. The point is the YMCA comparison was one of access, not entertainment. You can disagree, but it’s reasonable for people to prefer more accessible, better contributions to society than what a pro-sports arena can provide. Especially when the very limited benefits a pro-sports arena can provide are already being provided to the fullest extent.
Yes, the YMCA is about access, which is great, and the values inherent in the YMCA are indisputable. The values inherent in an arena are different, less direct, and not about access, and thus not really comparable to a YMCA. Which was my original point.

People will assign different levels of value to an arena, of course, and some will place little or none upon it, which is fine. You don't feel a new arena is necessary, but the fact that others do doesn't make them wrong, or inherently bad humans. And you feel the Dome still fulfils it's role 'to the fullest extent', which others disagree with, but certainly warrants debate.

My original post was simply making the point that I think comparisons to the YMCA aren't what the debate should be about (because I think there is plenty of room for both, their purposes are different, and the either/or argument gets nowhere).

You can - and obviously do - disagree with that. But the escalation (and what you read into my post) is on you.
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