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Old 01-14-2025, 12:36 PM   #846
GioforPM
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Originally Posted by Rhett44 View Post
Look at the list of the cup winners over the past 15 years. You absolutely need game breaking talent taken from a top pick to win a cup these days:

Panthers - Barkov (pick 2), Ekblad (Pick 1)

Golden Knights - Eichel (pick 2), Pietrangelo (pick 4)

Avalanche - Mackinnon (pick 1), Makar (pick 4)

Lightning - Stamkos (pick 1)

Blues - Pietrangelo (pick 4)

Capitals - Ovechkin (pick 1)

Penguins - Crosby (pick 1), Malkin (pick 2)

Blackhawks Toews (pick 3), Kane (pick 1)

Kings - Doughty (pick 2)

Bruins - Seguin (pick 2)

I can't believe anyone here is denying it when the proof is right there. You NEED a top 4 pick at minimum to win a cup and in most cases more elite talent.

A lot of these teams were surrounded with other good to great players. The surrounding cast matters a lot. But you need the elite game breaking talent at the center of it.
Lightning won one cup with Stamkos playing exactly one PO game (11 years after he was drafted too). Caps won with Ovie - 14 years after drafting him.

Flames have a 3OA. Two years ago they had a 3, two 5s a 7, and a 10 OA on the team.
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