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Old 01-14-2025, 01:26 PM   #845
Enoch Root
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Originally Posted by Rhett44 View Post
Look at the list of the cup winners over the past 15 years. You absolutely need game breaking talent taken from a top pick to win a cup these days:

Panthers - Barkov (pick 2), Ekblad (Pick 1)

Golden Knights - Eichel (pick 2), Pietrangelo (pick 4)

Avalanche - Mackinnon (pick 1), Makar (pick 4)

Lightning - Stamkos (pick 1)

Blues - Pietrangelo (pick 4)

Capitals - Ovechkin (pick 1)

Penguins - Crosby (pick 1), Malkin (pick 2)

Blackhawks Toews (pick 3), Kane (pick 1)

Kings - Doughty (pick 2)

Bruins - Seguin (pick 2)

I can't believe anyone here is denying it when the proof is right there. You NEED a top 4 pick at minimum to win a cup and in most cases more elite talent.

A lot of these teams were surrounded with other good to great players. The surrounding cast matters a lot. But you need the elite game breaking talent at the center of it.
You just keep on moving the goalposts. No one is arguing that you don't need good players. But there are lots of ways to construct a good team, and an elite goalie is just as attractive as any other individual piece.

No #1 pick since 2015 has won the cup, and only 2 since 2009 have. And one of those was Ekblad, who is a good player, but isn't an elite talent.

The object is to build a great TEAM (something Boston has done). Do elite players help? Obviously. But a great goalie is an elite player too.

Also, just stop with the Seguin and Boston argument - it isn't helping you at all.
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