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Old 01-14-2025, 12:02 PM   #837
Rhett44
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
As to the first sentence, you can say the exact same thing about the top pick: it helps, but in most cases isn't necessary.

As for the other 2 sentences: McDavid, Matthews, Hischier, Dahlin, Hughes and Lafreniere say hi (every #1 from 2015-2020)
Look at the list of the cup winners over the past 15 years. You absolutely need game breaking talent taken from a top pick to win a cup these days:

Panthers - Barkov (pick 2), Ekblad (Pick 1)

Golden Knights - Eichel (pick 2), Pietrangelo (pick 4)

Avalanche - Mackinnon (pick 1), Makar (pick 4)

Lightning - Stamkos (pick 1)

Blues - Pietrangelo (pick 4)

Capitals - Ovechkin (pick 1)

Penguins - Crosby (pick 1), Malkin (pick 2)

Blackhawks Toews (pick 3), Kane (pick 1)

Kings - Doughty (pick 2)

Bruins - Seguin (pick 2)

I can't believe anyone here is denying it when the proof is right there. You NEED a top 4 pick at minimum to win a cup and in most cases more elite talent.

A lot of these teams were surrounded with other good to great players. The surrounding cast matters a lot. But you need the elite game breaking talent at the center of it.

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