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Originally Posted by curves2000
Are you pointing our reality or are you experiencing things differently? I actually ask you this question cause some of the things you are saying are not rooted in reality.
Trudeau is going out in a lot of ways a winner, he never lost an election. Although Harper was PM longer and lost, Trudeau has been in power from 2015-2025.
What has actually happened is that there has been such an open revolt within his own caucus, MP's, donors and party officials that it's actually shocking his fall from grace.
There is a parade of MP's from Liberal ridings, safe Liberal ridings who are telling him he has to go. It's over, move on, the fat lady has sung.
He was effectively removed as party leader but given the courtesy to resign. This is the hockey equivalent of the players shutting the door on a coach/GM and the players and the fan's having quit virtually 100%
He isn't wanted by his own people and party. They are done with him. Look what happened when his useless Finance Minister and Deputy PM pulled the rug from under him that day! She had the guts and the support to walk into a room and get a standing ovation from MP's and then went and hugged him while he was all smiles.
Trudeau's wings and n**s were clipped by his #2. This happens all the time in business, in politics, in sports and in the mafia.
Your trying to turn an 80 year old former oil guy in Gwyn Morgan into some global political player. He isn't George Soros, The Koch brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Elon Musk or other power brokers.
On the balance of probabilities, you should probably listen to leaders of the opposition including a shocking amount of progressive MP's and people who say Trudeau is really that bad and needed to go ages ago.
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K, none of this pointlessly long post negates what I said, that an entire industry of bull#### sppreaders have arisen and spent the past 10 years working right wing voters up into an angry froth, such that they'll do things like camp on the side of a ####ing highway for months on end for no actual reason at all. They didn't even know why they were there after April, but being treated like heros by the propaganda outlets was enough to keep them there with their racist effigies hanging from posts, and tattered upside down flags blowing in the wind.
These are objectively not smart people and they are used like idiots to get Conservatives elected. If you want to debate that point, have at it.
Since you denied the Gwynn thing without looking, this is what he funded:
https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-exe...rrorist-group/
And here's where he donated to them:
https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/28/fr...te-true-north/
And here are the opinion pieces he writes, with such bangers like (paging Iggy)
OP-ED: Why unions are dividing Canada and wrecking the economy
https://tnc.news/author/gwynmorgan/
And this doesn't even touch on the ones the normal public sees as legitimate, bought and owned by Americans, with their flaghead paper of opinion pieces written by Conservatives alone, the National Post.
Sorry, but you can not legitimately argue there are not an unprecedented number of fake and real news agencies that have spent the last decade trying to convince any Canadian listening that Trudeau is worse than Hitler, and Conservatives have the solution.
And don't you ####ing try to "but the CBC!" Me on this one.