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Old 01-02-2025, 10:44 PM   #5258
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy View Post
They came in an inherited a team on its way down.

Built it back up and made the playoffs 3 out of 4 years and were one game away from being in the post season 4 straight years averaging 90 wins per season.

They've hardly been as bad as people make them out to be.

Their biggest flaw is drafting and developing.

But they also had a very flawed core to build around.
Measured in their approach, but each of those playoffs years there were needs leading up to the playoffs that were left unaddressed, and then half measures (or no measures) in the offseason to remedy the reason they got booted out of the playoffs early. Money isn't the issue. They're top 6 in payroll.

It was still though trying to do some things on the cheap, and that unwillingness to overpay, along with indecisiveness has snowballed basically since the Seattle debacle and now I don't think anyone in baseball really trusts them as individuals any more/ believes that they believe in the vision of what they claim as are trying to sell, which makes it hard for those FAs to confidently choose Toronto on multi year deals.

Trading Moreno and Teo for Varsho rubbed people the wrong way, both have been to the World Series since and it seemed like a targeted clean out of Vlad cronies, which set Vlad back. Getting Chapman was a good idea and would've been (sure an overpay, but sounds like he wanted to stay at the time, but...) a good re signing last offseason to lock down third base, and also signal the Jays can sign players and quality players at that.

Instead he was ignored and the Daniel Vogelbach/IKF/another year of Kiermier plan was hatched.

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