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Old 01-02-2025, 10:49 AM   #3218
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Originally Posted by GioforPM View Post
Tell me how those numbers are measured - all numbers deal with border "encounters". Which means that Biden was more successful in catching border crossers.

Trump also had low numbers because of COVID.

The numbers are flawed and the impact of immigration is based on false narratives.
Are you actually this delusional? You're disagreeing with information and other opinions from reputable sources that are put in front of you? I'll repeat the quote from the article I posted:

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Would-be migrants, as well as the Mexican cartels that run transit networks, heard a clear message: Entering the United States had become easier. The number of people attempting to do so spiked almost immediately.
Is your identity so tied to a Democratic president doing nothing wrong that you won't admit that there were places he failed? I agreed that Biden was a good President. I liked him and way prefer him over what we have now. But to refuse to admit that his border policies were a failure is not reconcilable - you lose any potential credibility you have when you bury your head in the sand like this.

Yes, we're looking at border apprehensions - I'm not sure how you think this data isn't representative. You claiming they just "caught more" is just not possible when you look at the trends, namely:

- The numbers spiked by a significant amount within a couple months of Biden's office after Biden almost immediately issued executive orders to open the borders up more. This isn't a function of just catching more people. It would take months and months to put in place the infrastructure and people needed to increase apprehensions to the level seen just 2-3 months after Biden took office
- You claim Trump had low numbers because of COVID, but if you look at the numbers pre-COVID, they were still much lower than anything Biden had in his first three years. (Chart shown in the article I linked)
- Biden's administration clearly admitted the issue during the election year and took steps to fix it via executive order earlier this year. Border apprehensions have fallen significantly since. But for some reason, apologists like you still feel the need to carry their water. Or was Biden's actions just to stop "catching" them???

Again - Biden put in place policies that removed border protections. Illegal border crossings spiked immediately. This is as clear of a cause-and-effect relationship as I've ever seen and you still have people claiming it's false. I'm not really sure what else to say, I'm dumbfounded that people will just refuse to acknowledge clear data presented to them.
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