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Old 12-29-2024, 02:55 PM   #10361
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Gazans should release hostages, unconditionally, and recognize the right of the state of Israel to exist. That's it. Are those demands unreasonable, ghoulish and demonic?
Actually yes, it's unreasonable. You're asking that they give up the only leverage they have for nothing. Reasonable would be releasing the hostages and recognizing Israel as part of a negotiated settlement.

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There's one fundamental thing here that needs to be addressed. You view Oct 7th as a one-off attack that, although horrible, happened long ago and is over. And what Israel is doing, in your opinion, is an overzealous revenge for the crime that maybe was brutal, but is a thing of the past and it's high time for the punishment to stop.

That's factually incorrect view. The Oct 7th attack is an ongoing situation because Gazans are still holding the hostages. If they had released the hostages and Israel kept bombing them as mere punishment, you might have had a point about unproportional response and over-the-top punishment. But as long, as hostages are there, it's an ongoing war, not a one-sided beating.
It is both. The war is a one-sided beating.
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