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Old 12-20-2024, 12:21 AM   #16070
MelBridgeman
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You’re welcome to show your work.
You will send you a NDA.



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I honestly can’t tell if you agree with me or if you don’t understand how that expression is supposed to be used.
"Every company shouldn't be unioned"
- that is correct, most companies don't and don't need to be.



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My apologies for “cherry picking” the only things that are in the workers’ control since the other ones aren’t guaranteed. But you’re welcome to continue sharing your theories and hypothetical scenarios.
It seems like you might not have much experience in the private sector to recognize that 19th- and 20th-century working norms no longer apply, especially in developed nations. Of course, nothing is black and white, but there are many professions where workers have significant leverage to advance their careers and increase their salaries. This isn’t just theory—it ultimately depends on what you make of it.


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Yeah but what if, hypothetically speaking, you’re wrong? Unless you’re saying that you’re right about everything all the time and therefore you simply agreeing with something makes it right the “I know which one I would choose” isn’t an argument. It’s what people say when they don’t have an argument.
It ties back to your point about finiteness—we have a finite number of jobs and a finite number of ideas. Let’s focus on ideas: not only is there a limited number of them, but there’s also a finite number of people capable of generating and executing them. Given that, capital is best placed in the hands of those who can create something beneficial for the majority. Some might call this trickle-down economics, which I would prefer over a bottom-up approach, which seems to align with your preference. Ultimately, capital should go to someone with a good idea, rather than someone likely to waste it on frivolous things like booze and cigarettes. (ha ha) And that is exactly how the system is setup now and it works. It much more than tax breaks for the rich, that a ####ing genric statement you learn from the Robert Reich/Bernie Sanders/AOC/Liz Warren/NDP school of economics, nobody in the know takes those people seriously.




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How does kicking hard working people in the ass increase their pay? Slaves didn’t get raises and they got “kicked in the ass” a lot. Leverage gets you raises, not hard work alone.

Most people perform at their best when they have an incentive to motivate them.

“Why not take care of those people while they’re in the queue?”

Because that risks disincentivizing them. The realization that you need to be “taken care of” should be enough to motivate you. If it’s not, well, there’s always a street corner you can hang out on.

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