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Originally Posted by Jason14h
This is their last shot before Vlad and Bo both walk and then guys start coming off the payroll
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I thought the pivot from the Bo and Vlad years should have started this time last year. If they weren't willing to do that then Vlad (at least) should have been extended. Even if they really want to win this year a defensive upgrade at 2B is pretty far down on the list of things to address (and they burned trade capital and significant payroll to do it).
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
I agree they won’t get what they need - but I don’t think the trade affects it . It’s one of like 5 moves they realistically need to make
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It's also should have been the lowest priority. They want to go for it? Fine, go for it... but this is an inefficient poor way to go about it IMO. They've put themselves into a position where they need to get lucky (on multiple fronts) to even get into just the wildcard game. That's not a good place to be even if you're YOLOing it.
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Originally Posted by JTech780
To classify Gimenez as a glove only player would be incorrect.
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I don't think it is. All of his surplus value comes from his glove. In the majors he's been, on the whole, a below average hitter. Even if you go back and look at his minor league stats he was basically an average hitter coming up the ranks. I'm not altogether convinced that he's an upgrade on cheap internal options... Wagner and Horwitz both hit better then him in the minors (and last year in smaller sample sizes in the majors as well). So yeah... better defense at the cost of worse hitting (for more money), that didn't work last year and it didn't work the year before. I think this is just the Jays tripling-down on a failed strategy.