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Old 12-08-2024, 10:11 AM   #22
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On an interesting sidenote this is now the end of Baathism after almost 80 year of it being a defining political movement and ideology in the Arab World, effectively Islam has finally killed Marxist based Socialism in the region
Baathism has /had a pretty complicated connection to Marxism and socialism, and it's probably as closely tied to fascism, despite the rhetorics.

While there's obviously a lot of variation, generally speaking the only parts of socialism Baathism commonly accepts are one-party rule (and typically dictatorship rule), national ownership of resources, planned economies, giving land to farmers, and some socialist economics, but again not in a class-conscious way, so it's less "equal distribution of wealth" and more "keeping the masses pacified by spending some oil-money".

It generally rejects key Marxist socialist concepts such as class-struggle and uniting workers across borders, replacing them with protectionism and pan-Arabic nationalism, which supports "ethnic unity", often leading to ethnic cleansings.

(Also, Iraq was the most significant Baathist nation, and Saddam was taken down by a US lead military aggression. Islamism only stepped in to fill the vacuum.)

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