View Single Post
Old 12-02-2024, 01:05 PM   #4046
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG View Post
To the bolder this is a failure of people. We currently have insurance because people aren’t perfect. There is no reason self driving should be held to a higher standard. Essentially accident rates should dictate the cost of the insurance to the owner of the self driving vehicle. Smoking a kid in a driveway or mowing down an old lady are perfectly acceptable consequences of driving. I don’t think AGI is required given the success of Waymo.

I think we have seen how far away Tesla self driving is when you compare to the kit on Waymo to the kit on Tesla.
They are acceptable consequences of humans driving. I suspect human psychology is going to find those types of situations unacceptable when a computer is in charge.

And I think you agree with me, I think using other sensors allows companies like Waymo to be good enough without AGI. Musk has always said humans have eyes only, and can be taught to drive, so they can teach their car to drive with vision only. He neglects the reality that humans think much differently than computers. Other sensors allow for much less inferring about the world around you, because you can decide with more certainty what an object is(and it's properties like direction, speed, etc) when you have vision, radar and lidar. So yes, we already have self driving vehicles safe enough for deloyment with Waymo. No one has demonstrated this with vision only.

I'd kinda half love to see what would happen if Tesla just said all their cars were autonomous now, and sent them on their way. This can happen a long way from wherever I am.
Fuzz is offline   Reply With Quote