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Originally Posted by Fuzz

Because, as I mentioned, Tesla vision AI is trained on what it knows, and what it has seen. In theory it knows a stop sign means stop because it was trained for that. The problem is that it requires may iterations of each unique case to make a decision on what to do. So what does it do when it sees something novel, a situation it isn't trained for? It fails. It may fail successfully, or it may fail catastrophically. The issue is that as an autonomous vehicle, deployed to millions of vehicles, is that these failures can not happen because someone needs to be liable. We aren't going to accept a collision rate anything less than near perfect. The minute a Tesla creams a kid in a driveway or parking lot is going to be the end of it.



To overcome these flaws, other companies have several sensors, and in my opinion, more robust programing. I think they can get safe enough with these methods, at least in areas with no winter, which is an entire other area of problems.



AGI would bring a human like brain to a vision only vehicle. That brain would be able to reason that a stop sign advertisement on the back of a bus doesn't mean stop. Or that it's Halloween, so you will see some weird things, kids everywhere etc. Or the low sun on the horizon isn't a yellow light. Or that flashing yellow at this particular spot should be treated as a stop sign. Or in this city, if you don't rush the yellow, you WILL get rear ended. And it's not that you can't program these things in, but that there are just too many, it's known as the long tail. And they are constantly changing, such as pedestrians with cell phones. Or headphones on. So AGI will provide the reasoning that allows it to solve for unique issues on the spot, vs pre-decided actions.

To the bolder this is a failure of people. We currently have insurance because people aren’t perfect. There is no reason self driving should be held to a higher standard. Essentially accident rates should dictate the cost of the insurance to the owner of the self driving vehicle. Smoking a kid in a driveway or mowing down an old lady are perfectly acceptable consequences of driving. I don’t think AGI is required given the success of Waymo.

I think we have seen how far away Tesla self driving is when you compare to the kit on Waymo to the kit on Tesla.