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Originally Posted by SebC
I agree with the sentiment. But I can't imagine there are any pacifists left in Gaza after what Israel has done to them. Israel has created the next two generations of terrorists in its response to Oct 7. And so the cycle continues.
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I have seen this argument many times, but have yet to see any evidence of that. There were many times in history where one nation defeated another one, usually in quite brutal way. This tends to subdue and calm down the defeated, rather than create generations of terrorists craving for revenge. From my personal experience, when USSR fell to USA in the cold war, people were not thinking about "revenge", but rather tend to mock communists and suck up to USA. That's human nature. By and large we are not indomitable freedom fighters. Subduing Chechnya in 1999-2000 is another example. After brutal campaign by Putin, they have been the most loyal not-native-Russian region of Russia.
More to the personal experience, Germans murdered millions of Jews and also invaded my native county. I don't hate Germans at all. As I work for German company, I work with them on daily basis. I have zero intention to revenge Holocaust or WWII. Among non-jewish Russians there's also no hate towards Germans because of WWII, despite 27 millions of Russians killed.
Also, see how nuking Japan in return for Pearl Harbor - which was in many ways similar to what Israel is doing in return for Oct 7th - turned them into pacifists, rather than avengers.
https://japantoday.com/category/nati...-gallup-survey
It's money and propaganda, rather than historical injustice, that creates terrorists. In 70s Israelis and Gazans lived in peace and travelled to one another. Somehow Gazans didn't care about 1948 Nakba and other alleged atrocities that accompanied the creation of modern Israel.
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many Gazan workers took jobs in the agriculture, construction and services industries inside Israel, to which they could gain easy access at that time
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...oe-2023-10-10/
See, somehow they had no problem working for that "evil Zionist project", as long as it brought bread to the table. That was barely 20 years after the supposedly "unforgettable catastrophe" of Nakba.
It was only after Iran funneled oil money into propaganda and brainwashing, Gazans suddenly realized that they can't forgive Nakba and absolutely must avenge it.