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Old 11-24-2024, 05:46 PM   #158
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Originally Posted by NegativeSpace View Post
I’m not saying to toss the entire enterprise out or that they are irrelevant. It’s information but shouldn’t be used as conclusively as I sometimes see, at least based on my understanding of the stat. For example I have no issue how it’s reported in your game stories as that helps inform longer term trends.

In some respects it’s a better plus-minus for the players. For teams i find it helpful to look at xG% and goal differential. None are absolutes but just useful.

With the player stat, it can be misleading on its own. Two players can have 50% xG% as far as I understand but that means different things. Player one with 1 xGF and 1 xGA based on the xG of the Fenwick shot attempt. So not much happens with that player on the ice and it’s pretty balanced. Player 2 can have 8 xGF and 8xGA suggesting the player is in ice for lots of chances before and against.

Now you’ve argued with a lot more people about these stats than I so maybe I’m misunderstanding. I find with all stats it’s important to understand the limitations of them so we can better communicate the data derived from these stats.
No that's right.

And a good reason that you can't compare players directly that don't play the same role.

A guy with a great expected split on a fourth line shouldn't be promoted on that basis.

But you can compare that player against fourth line players across the league and a get a pretty good idea of who drives play with limited minutes and who doesn't.
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