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Old 11-18-2024, 11:45 AM   #10224
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Originally Posted by Bagor View Post
I'll answer this separately because you're another one that appears to be of the mindset that to be of an anti genocidal viewpoint and criticize the actions of Israel and its genocidal behaviour equates to support for Hamas and the evilness of Oct 7.

Answer is yes. Absolutely.

Why wouldn't my views be consistent? What are you trying to imply? That because you appear to think that singing and celebrating about the mass murder of children isn't a big deal that I should be of the same viewpoint?

Celebrating Oct 7th and the mass murder of children are BOTH equally disgusting.
I will admit it, I didn't think you'd say that. I'm glad you did.

I agree both are disgusting, yes. And I do think hate speech is a serious problem to be dealt with, even hate speech that does not explicitly call for violence, as demonization and dehumanization of a group almost inevitably leads to oppression and violence against that group. But I still disagree that extralegal assaults are the right remedy. Ideally you would deal with it through education, with suppression reserved for the intractable. The use of force is reserved for the state so long as the state is willing and capable of discharging its responsibilities.

Escalation leads to fear.
Fear leads to anger.
Anger leads to hate.
Hate leads to suffering.

And there's already too much suffering.
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