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Old 11-12-2024, 11:46 AM   #1093
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Except Bernie is completely wrong about the Dems "abandoning the working class". This was the most favorable government to middle and lower income people in a long long time and Harris' proposals went even further.
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Objectively, it's true. The problem is that Democrats seem to have a befuddlingly awful track-record of relating that truth to voters.

The guys from Pod Save America were on Jimmy Kimmel a few days after the election and I thought it was fascinating to hear the difference between writing speeches or Obama and Hillary Clinton.

The idea that Hillary was more policy minded, while Obama was concerned with the overall story and how it is framed, feels to resonate a little bit more considering how difficult it has been for Democrats - since Obama - to seemingly relate with voters without relying on "we're not Trump".

The Democrats are, across the board, the better option socially and economically for the vast majority of Americans. They just can't figure out a more effective way of making it digestible to the average person without dumbing it down to the modern GOP message.
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