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Old 11-12-2024, 10:53 AM   #14595
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
Only a zealot believes there’s no moral complexity around abortion. Most people believe a fetus becomes a life worthy of protection under the law sometime before birth - the question is when. You see this in polling - 8 per cent of Americans believe abortion should be banned in all circumstances, while 19 per cent believe it should be legal in all cases. And yet the debate is couched in those two extremists, unpopular stances.

Even if they took only the opinions of women into account, U.S. states would allow ready and free access to abortions in the first trimester, with abortion restricted only to medical emergency in the third trimester. So pretty much the abortion laws what every country in Western Europe has.

Instead, the ferocious polarization of American political activism makes it difficult for states to craft abortion legislation that accords with the values of most citizens. So they wind up with many U.S. states imposing far tighter restrictions than anywhere in Western Europe, while many others have fewer restrictions than anywhere in Europe.
The very fact there is a moral complexity, means ANY bans shouldn't exist. Seems like you're trying somehow to both sides this. Couching "legal in all circumstances" as extremist makes this apparent. I suppose "9 month abortion" might be one of those circumstances. But if you ban that, you are going to kill women with still born complications.

I suppose you could write a law going into very specific medical instances, but then there'll be medical exceptions to that too. At the end of the day, mapping laws surrounding determining what is the right course to save a life seems, unethical? If life is sacred, and that's the reason for this stance on abortion, there should not be DNR designation, you should not be able to stay no to any type of care, etc.

Nobody thinks you should be able to terminate a healthy 8 month fetus, AND NOBODY IS TRYING TO. That's the strawman in your "extremist" take that doesn't exist. It's silly to think that 19% wants anyone to be able to terminate a health 8 month fetus, and no doctor would do that
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