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Originally Posted by GirlySports
At some point 'better than' doesn't really matter, it can't get worse. As I said before, there has to be dealbreakers.
person a - Harris isn't good enough on Israel
person b - She's better than Trump
person a - better how? genocide is genocide
person b - The choices are Harris, Trump or let others decide.
person a - But I want one of them to be better, it can't get much worse
person b - Trump will never get better
person a - Harris is the government, You know what, if genocide is genocide and they are the same, I need a different issue. Maybe I could use some tax cuts.
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The point was person A is not engaged in a discourse. They are ignoring the question, if these are your options who's better? I'm happy to engage both the questions you put out there at the end.
Trump says Israel needs to "finish what they started"
Harris "working to end the war in Gaza, such that Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom, and self-determination"
I think there is a certain willful ignorance to the situation here. You're given the choice between someone who is literally cheerleading the genocide, and someone who has publicly declared that they want to see an end to it. You are espousing authority to the position of VP that they just don't have, assuming someone in Harris' position has the ability, authority, autonomy to enact any change in US foreign policy or the policy of foreign governments and non-government actors, and you are gleefully will willing to watch things get much worse, just so that you can point out that someone else didn't do enough to make things better.
*Trump isn't offering tax cuts, he is offering a tax increase on most goods. And tax cuts do not always equal more wealth relative to inflation for the vast majority of people, many of the benefits people enjoy in life are government funded, and many of the things people buy are market driven (therefore if everyone across the board has more money they just inflate in cost).
Even if you are going to turn from Gaza been a key issue, any economist would tell you the economic platform Trump is putting forward is at best loony, 0 issues where Trump has better policy 0.