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Originally Posted by shutout
No but being ruthless in how you manage assets is available to them.
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I definitely don't disagree with their approach (even if it hurts a bit as a fan to see that revolving door), but that wasn't the only reason why they won. That expansion draft was somethin' else.
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
From 2011 VGK, STL, BOS.
STL or are you going to argue that Pietrangelo at 4, and Johnson at 1 were the main reason they won the cup?
BOS got Seguin at 2, it did help, but he was far from the reason they won the cup that year.
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Even LAK did get Doughty at 2, but I would argue that getting Kopitar at 11, Quick at 72, etc was just as important.
Teams that definitely won it thanks to homegrown top 5 picks since 2011: CHI, PIT, WSH, TBL*, COL, FLA
* Stamkos and Hedman couldn't get over the hump until they got Kucherov and Point
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St. Louis had Pietrangelo, 4th overall. I don't quite see how you can discount Doughty, or Pietrangelo for that matter - which means, yeah the bare minimum is 1 top 5 draft pick.
You can pick Seguin on Boston as a cheeky choice, but he was there - meaning the minimum still sits at 1.
In most cases, it's more than one - but as a starting point, I'd take just one.
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Originally Posted by All In Good Time
The only way to build a Championship team is through the top of the draft…….
Ridiculous over the top absolutes
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How is it ridiculous or over the top? Show examples of Champions in recent history that disprove it... It's just a reality. Having homegrown players from the top of the draft guarantees nothing, but not having them does in fact seem to exclude you from that hall of champions. Citing Vegas is a useless point, because the Flames cannot be an expansion team. So if you want to use that one angle to prove my point as ridiculous...sure, but it doesn't actually help show a path for the Flames to a Championship.