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Old 10-02-2024, 03:06 PM   #21779
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis View Post
Can I offer you some advice? Don't pay attention to this race until November 5. Your responses to Walz's performance last night come off as being pretty devastated. But why? My assumption is that in your mind last night was going to be "the end Trump's chances". Walz was gonna do great, Vance was gonna be a debacle, and that was going to put a wrap on Trump's chances. Except, even if that happened, it wasn't going to change anything. And even though Vance won and Walz wasn't great, that also changes nothing.

Nothing is going to change this race meaningfully between now and election. So just chill, don't worry about the fact this will be tight until the end, and quit hoping for the "end of Trump's chances" moment, cause it just isn't happening.
I'm well aware that this is going to be an extremely close race right up to the finish line, and nothing that happened last night was going to change that fact. I was never under the impression that there was any possibility of a "Trump is finished" moment at this debate, nor any time before the election.

That said, this is the most consequential election in the history of the modern world, arguably the most important in the entire history of our species. And with the margins being razor-thin as they are, everything matters. If the VP debate influences even a few votes, it matters. If Walz having a better performance meant moving a few more votes into the Harris/Walz column, it matters.

I still think most people in the US don't have a true, deep understanding of the gravity of this situation. If Trump gets back into power, there won't be any meaningful checks or balances against what he wants to do to the country and the world. A lot of people have a false sense of security based on the fact that Trump was president before. What they don't realize is that there are worlds of difference between a Trump who stumbled and bumbled his way into a presidency he was not expecting, took a long time to learn the ins and outs of the job, his WH was staffed with people who shielded the country against his worst impulses, and it took time for him to stack the courts in his favor... vs a 2nd Trump term where he hits the ground running from day 1 with Project 2025 in hand, has the courts already stacked in his favor, and will staff the WH and govt departments with extreme MAGA loyalists.

My honest opinion is this: if Trump wins, humanity has no future. And by that I mean, sure, people in North Korea technically have a future, in the sense that they're allowed to live as mindless work drones, devoid of freedom or independent thought. They're "free" to worship the god-king, and do their daily tasks like robots. But they are not truly free to actually live, to think freely and speak their minds the way we do here in western nations. They do not live lives of self-determination, only self-preservation. Same kind of thing in Russia, where the people are not free to speak out against the Putin regime, nor against the Ukraine invasion. They are also not free to choose their government representatives. Russia's sham "elections" are not actual elections.

The kind of world that Trump, Vance, MAGA, and Heritage Foundation want to usher in... I have to be honest with you, I don't think I want any part in it.

So for the idea of checking out and not paying attention until November 5, I don't think that's in the cards for me.
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